Marine survey lists concerns on women in combat

Daily News Article   —   Posted on February 4, 2013

image646(by Julie Watson, San Diego Union-Tribune) SAN DIEGO – A Marine Corps survey found about 17 percent of male Marine respondents who planned to stay in the service or were undecided said they would likely leave if women move into combat positions.

That number jumped to 22 percent if women are assigned involuntarily to those jobs, according to the survey.

Also listed among the top concerns by male Marines about the policy change were fears about being falsely accused of sexual harassment or assault, fraternization, and preferential treatment of some Marines.

Respondents also worried that women would be limited because of pregnancy or personal issues that could affect a unit before it’s sent to the battlefield.

The results of the survey of 53,000 Marines were released Friday to The Associated Press.  The survey was conducted from May 30 to Aug. 31. The results were given to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta before he opened thousands of combat jobs last week to female service members. …

Both sexes surveyed mentioned intimate relationships between Marines and feeling obligated to protect female Marines among their top five concerns about allowing women into ground combat jobs.

Top concerns of women Marines included the targeting of women as POWs, the risk of sexual harassment or assault, and hygiene facilities, according to the results that did not give specifics.

The women also said they worry about acceptance and physical abilities if given a full-time ground combat job. …

About 4 percent of female Marines who indicated they had planned to stay beyond their current commitment or were undecided said they would consider leaving if the ban on women in combat was lifted.

Even more would drop out if women were put into those positions involuntarily. About 17 percent of female respondents indicated they would cut their careers short under those circumstances.

About 31 percent of female respondents – or 1,558 women Marines – say they would be interested in a lateral* move to a combat position as their primary job, and 34 percent – or 1,636 – said they would volunteer for a ground combat unit assignment. [lateral: of or constituting a change within an organization or a hierarchy to a position at a similar level, as in salary or responsibility]

The infantry side is skeptical about how women will perform in their units, and some positions may end up closed again if too few females meet the physically demanding standards of combat, said Gen. James Amos, head of the Marine Corps, who spoke to reporters Thursday at a defense conference in San Diego. Most Marines support the policy change, Amos said. …

Many of the newly opened positions are in Army and Marine infantry units and in potentially elite commando jobs. It will be up to the military service chiefs to recommend and defend whether women should be excluded from any of those more demanding and deadly positions, such as Navy commandos or the Army’s Delta Force.

The infantry units are smaller and spend more grueling time in battle.

“I think from the infantry side of the house, you know they’re more skeptical,” Amos said. “It’s been an all-male organization throughout the history of the U.S. Marine Corps so I don’t think that should be any surprise.” … About 7 percent of Marines are female compared to about 14 percent overall for the armed forces.

Both sexes in the survey said they believe getting women closer to the action will improve their career opportunities.

From The Associated Press, © Copyright 2013 The San Diego Union-Tribune, LLC. All rights reserved. Reprinted here for educational purposes only.


1.  a) What percent of male Marines who planned to stay in the service said they would likely leave if women move into combat positions?
b)  What what increase that number to 22%?

2. What precent of female Marines who had planned to stay beyond their current commitment say they wold not stay if women were put in combat roles involuntarily?

3. a) List the top concerns male Marines have about the policy change that will allow women to serve in combat roles.
b) List the top concerns female Marines have about the policy change that will allow women to serve in combat roles.

4. How many female marines say they would volunteer for a ground combat unit assignment?

5. If males do not have the option to choose whether they serve in combat positions or not, should females?

6. Re-read para. 13-16.

Elaine Donnelly of the conservative Center for Military Readiness and a vocal critic of allowing female soldiers to go into combat said the survey asked the wrong questions and should have been asking if troops favor it and whether it will make a more effective force.
a) Do you agree with her assertion about what question marines should have been asked in the survey? Why or why not?

b) Ms. Donnelly said that the questionnaire also relied on the “mistaken belief” that training standards will remain the same, which she said is not realistic given the differing physical abilities between the genders. She said the Pentagon is bent on imposing gender-based quotas that will drive down standards. Defense leaders say standards will not be lowered.
“The results that are being put out there are designed to manage public perception,” she said. “There is a lot about this that still needs to be discussed and it’s really not fair to the women who serve out there.”
Do you agree? Explain your answer.

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